My Legal Struggle with Christine Breese and the University of Metaphysical Sciences (UMS)

RE: My Legal Struggle with Christine Breese and the University of Metaphysical Sciences (UMS)

Wow. This is tits. You can consider me a willing soldier in your war against this tool. Keep in mind that there is a large following behind you, many of them lawyers. Dave Hanson for instance, who is the prosecuting attorney for Clearwater county, and Lars, a man who is not only a lawyer, but also very tall. And you've got me; Jeremiah Liend, bon vivant, swashbuckling adventurer, and Shadow Mayor of Bemidji. If you need me to lead some sort of assault in the cyber and/or real world, you just send up the signal. Dozens of your most capable and disturbed allies will emerge from the woodwork to administer swift north woods justice.

OMFG!!!! despite the fact i can't have kids cause i have a pp, i so wanna have your baby! good luck to you. that bitch is crazy!

I want to hereby announce my willingness to back Holden up in a scrap. The sound of one hand clapping is John Holden making videos, and then some fruitcake sending him a happy endorsement but later completely changing his/her position and being shocked when John just keeps singing the song he was singing all along.

So some "students" are disturbed about the vid and the ensuing comments?

Weclome to planet earth. A lot of disturbing opinions are expressed here. Thick skin, children, thick skin, else we're toast.

Anyhow, now is a good moment.

Isn't it?

I'm all for exposing this 'university' for what it really is, but I think only the most mentally il would actually think it's a good idea to enrol there.

let the blood be preserved, and peace now reign across the land.

Videobloggers and Youtubers should be able to quote and use each others videos for commertary, parody, etc with proper attribution. This is how it works in text blogs, newspapers, magazines, and books. So shall it be for web video.

I resent being called un-spiritual. I actually play your videos while doing my morning yoga. I plan on sending out 2 spiritual thought warriors for you John, which when added to the powerful forces of Jeremiah, Dave and Lars should do the trick. I'd send more but the rest are helping Shane decide where best to move his collegiate ass.

Hey John,

Christine here, the gal your video is about. I actually thought your first one was funny, and this one is entertaining too! I’m actually honored that you would pick me to make a parody of, out of all the videos out there, you picked mine! I’m honored. Thanks! I am feeling rather humorous about the whole thing, it's funny to me.

I personally didn’t have a problem with your videos, we just had an overprotective staff member who got carried away trying to ask you to honor copyright laws in the emails. We did feel a copyright violation did take place because it seems that people on Youtube adhere to the 20% rule, which is if a video is 5 minutes long, 1 minute is within the safe guidelines of the Fair Use Act. Yours isn’t within the 20% rule. But that’s ok, be cool, no one's out to get you. Sorry that staff member got carried away and scared you, but there is no lawsuit, silly! It’s not my style. I didn’t know all that was happening until a few days ago, it looks like it got blown out of proportion, and suddenly I find out I'm supposed to be in some lawsuit! The oddity of it all. It’s amazing to me how everyone can get into such a tizzy so fast! It’s mind boggling.

However, I don’t have a problem with your videos. I’m pretty mellow about it. Actually, I've had some good laughs over the situation. It sure came as a surprise. Some of the students and staff members might not be cool with it, but me, well, I figure “anything goes” on this planet, eh? I never worry about the small stuff.

I do think you’re kinda cute and funny too! You’re right! Let’s turn this into a lot of views for both of us! I’ll have my people call your people, we’ll do lunch and celebrate!

Rock on!

@Christine:
If I make fun of you and violate your copyright, can I come to lunch too?
I'm kinda hungry.

Well, ok, why not?

Let's just make a party out of it! We can have a potluck.

But we eat pretty healthy, so you have to be willing to eat tofu! And veggies and fruit!

I'm seeing it for what it is. A woman who has a neurosis of her own spending time convincing herself that she is completely calm and tranquil through her easily lead students.

Having Monkey Mind makes us who we are... Even if it means comedic with an edge.

If I lost my strong opinions because I subdued my emotional backup, I might as well be a zombie and never make it in the film industry because there would be nothing to tap into emotionally when auditioning in front of a casting director.

My first observation of Christine Breeze without your imput was that I would hate to be alone with her in a room when she has one of her emotional melt downs.

As far as your concerned, if they really had an attorney working on it, they would have sent you a cease and desist letter with no personal warning.

Lastly, Christine is getting wonderful recognition from people who would never know she existed and to judge that your audience wouldn't go for her retreat means she's using Monkey Mind judgment.

Its an off handed compliment, but true.

Thanks for your entertainment,

Laura

What the hell is this 20% rule? No such thing. Other than that glad that our Monkey Minds and Lizard Brains can co-exist. Plenty of butter to go around.

you are the man.

Our Monkey Mind Masters may have a problem with this, but all the better to enjoy.

I don't know if Christine really means what she says here... and if so, cool... if not... well the only experience I have with the (UMS) was a ridiculous "conversation" via blog comments with a "Laura" from the school.

I'm glad to hear you won't be shut down and deleted from the internets, though... it would be like having your entire existence, monkey mind or not, deleted from the universe.

Sounds like Christine wants some of that naked sexy!! Her neurosis seems to stem from lack of sexual outlet and maybe you have cured her!! Maybe she will actually smile or make SOME sort of facial expression in her next vid.

Your eyes, your mouth, YOUR "truths" have hypnotized her and the rest of us here on YouTube! No one man or woman can resist your charm, your sex.. your monkey mind.

Unlike all the others who post here and seem to have big funny brains... I am not so blessed. I can only tell you what comes from my heart.. and other naughty bits.

Hugs/Kisses... Rollo -- You know who I am!!! ha ha!!

My name is Sarah and I work at UMS.

I should warn you right off the bat that I'm just some gal who works at the office. Nothing I say is official UMS communication or policy. I'm responding as a fan, from home, on my own time. (just in case the office reads this!)

I can only tell you my own story: when I started working at UMS, some staff members showed me your video and we all laughed our asses off about it. I thought it was very funny, clever, and not at all offensive. Actually it is one of your gentler videos!

When I asked my supervisor about the video, I was told explicitly not to worry about it, because Christine personally thought it was funny and that's all that mattered.

I am disappointed and disgusted that someone decided to threaten you! What the hell? I can be sure that that person will be in a world of trouble for it. Christine knows what is going on, and she even posted a comment on the original YouTube video about it.

The vast majority of the staff and students at UMS know how to take a good joke!!

Please know again that nothing I say is in any way "official" communication from UMS, but I am speaking the truth as much as I am aware of it.

Also, it was through this video that I discovered your video blog and became a fan. So thanks for that.

Sarah

great artists will always be attacked by smaller minds.

i think you're one of the best videomakers I know. never stop, no matter what.

everybody FTW, esp. Holden + Fair Use.

ps your cute!!

THE PLOT THICKENS

Why don't the sentiments of the letter Christine sent John in the video ("Christine here, I realize you win") match the sentiments she is leaving now as comments ("I didn't even know I was supposed to sue you!")?

Something ain't right.

Hey! Glad to see you are back. Sorry about the legal problems you were having. But made some great material for your show.

Hopefully all things go well.
-Chie

So... I take it we're not assaulting a metaphysical school? Because I thought that was the plan and have been waging theoretical attacks all fucking week. Now this Christina has the audacity to be above it all? Well she's going to be having dreams about being attacked by a school of Starkist tuna cans for about a month now if my psychic powers have anything to say about it... so... sorry about that I guess. I'll back the Guild down to standby and await further instructions.

You're going about this wrongly. Send the receptionist some random junk and stink envelopes.

Dude is truly possessed by the Devil himself. He needs to seek enlightment. He probably was a neglected and abused snot nose kid. People are scared of the truth and will harass those who try to bring the light because theyve been brainwashed for so long by society. Anything God like is frightening to them. Let the truth be told, the blind leads the blind and they are the walking dead. Continue sleeping...

If you need any legal support, I will be a juror for the case.
If you need any other type of support, I can make a kick ass chicken salad
and I am a good listener.

I read some tea leaves this morning and the omens bode well for you.
Blessings.

Hello, I understand that this website and/or another other postings you have made to slander my reputation terd vomit piss on a stick.. blah blah derka! your fucking videos ROCK!!!! and i look like an insane LESBIAN!!!!

I think your videos are funny and I tend to think that you don't mean any harm w/ them. You parody things.

I take exception to many of the comments being made on this thread though. It seems people feel completely validated in judging someone that they don't know, based on clips from an Email that wasn't even from her, and on 4:56 minute video clip.

Whereas I don't feel inclined to make everyone believe the way I do in regard to metaphysical concepts, and some of the stuff I've seen on shows like the 700 Club, well, I can imagine in my own head the parody's I'd like to make about such, it seems unfair, unbalanced, and very biased to judge a person on this small amount of information. Laura states that she'd hate to be in a room w/ Christine when she has an emotional meltdown... I don't see any indication of any emotional meltdown. In fact, what I've seen is Christine being a pretty good sport about all of this.

I have no problem w/ a funny parody and your stuff is pretty good, in my opinion, but what I do have a problem with are the ensuing unfair comments. Yes, people can basically say whatever they want to, but as adults, I would think that an attempt at being fair and balanced would be something we would wish to strive for.

Just my thoughts.

Peace.

Dawn

Well what Im sensing here is a power struggle. And one Im afraid is actually ultimately with your self at the end of the day and not with Christine Breese, whatever she or anyone else at UMS may or may not have done to upset you so much. The important thing is that you look at what is really going on underneath what has been triggered for you by Christine. No-one can make someone so upset like this and then react and retalliate in such a way and with so much force behind them when it wasn't already there in you in the first place. This all stems from your past, as it does with all of us. If you really truly want to be free from her and this issue that has been created then look beneath what is really going on for you. What lies behind our reaction of anger or hate is hurt and pain and what lies behind that is our fear. I can sense and see all this pain and fear you still carry and it can be seen so obviously in your eyes in your video and I hope so much that you will choose to let it go, not for any Christines or spiritual things but just for YOU because all this is only hurting you and also putting out much negativity out into the world which I can assure you will come back on you as that is how things work, whether you believe it or not. It may well be that if you look deeper Christine and/or UMS represents someone or something from your past or something that you are jealous of and not giving yourself. Ultimately it is your connection to yourself, your soul that you are most afraid of. I hope very much you will set yourself free through this and let it go and heal your wounds. I highly recommend Jeff Levin's Life Alignment Technique (which is an incredibly powerful and worldwide spreading new form of healing) to help you through this. And remember, no-one is perfect, thats why were here. Not even Christine claims to be perfect and neither do I for that matter. I hope this reply does not offend you and can help you to help yourself and set yourself truly free at least from this power struggle which is only really hurting you at the end of the day. You deserve to be free of this. Just because you exist. Lots of love to you Tania Shaw

Absolutely brilliant!

It does seem on contact with the U.M.S. that Christine's co-workers are slightly brainwashed, like most disciples I suppose, very one dimensional,wide eyed and over protective.

Your delivery is almost perfect in its sarcasm and Christine, unfortunately, does appear to be an emotionaly challenged, serotine,schizophrenic who could just explode at any second thus losing her hippy apearance,hang on a second,.......thats me!

The syllabus at the U.M.S. is superlative though and one of a kind which is why I am gonna study with them next year, regardless of Christines lack of professional,formal image!

GREAT VID THOUGH!

What the letter from Christine makes explicit is that she believes in using threats and intimidation to control others. This is spelled out clearly in a variety of ways, and it becomes apparent she is willing to be dishonest in the pursuit of whatever is worth intimidating others.

The idea that ums is non-profit is bizarre. Look at the # of students, multiply by amount of tuition, ask the staff what they are being paid and math tells you some fortune is being amassed.

I notice he isn't showing any of his emails. That's suspicious.

I'm new at the school and I read the comments on the youtube video, saw how the story played out. Turns out those letters weren't by that lady, they were by someone on staff, she came back from holiday vacation and tried to calm down a fight between this guy and the staff member because it turned into something she didn't know about. She read all this guy’s emails and the staff person’s emails to find out what happened. The letter she did write letting him know he could have what he wants, he wins, she didn't want any trouble from him, was a nice thing she was trying to do to calm everything down, but he had it out for her and made it look on his video like she wrote the other emails too even though she didn't. What this video shows is that the guy who made it manipulates information and lashes out at a person who didn't do anything to him rather than the person who really did. It shows how immature he is. To each his own, I guess.

I read her vision about money on the website and I asked them about it on the phone. She doesn't make a lot because she only pays herself what she pays staff. They spend the rest to translate courses into other languages, make it available to third world countries, put free textbooks in prisons, allow poor people to study with scholarships… Their goal with the money is to use it to change the world. I'm impressed that she could pay herself a lot more but she doesn't because she believes in using everything she has to make the world a better place. I know how non-profits work since I used to work for one. They can’t put all the money in someone’s account, it has to be used for charitable purposes.

That actually makes me feel better about this school. This guy has it all wrong. Some people don't get it. I wish him luck. He seems kind of sad. I asked them how she felt about him and her staff told me that she sends him peace and love whenever she thinks of him. She figures he needs it a lot.

This is such a weird video that portrays a completely false image of her, a total lie. This guy must have really wanted to connect and didn’t know any other way. He does seem to need a lot of help. People who are meant to look further will find out the real truth and not the lie of this video by some guy who is hateful and manipulative.

I really enjoy being a student there. The courses and the meditations are amazing and have changed my life for the better. Looking into this whole thing has shown me even more about why I was attracted to go to this school. The founder lady is loving even to those who are not, and I found out she uses the money for the good of others, not herself. I wouldn’t have known that if I didn’t look into this, so I’m glad I did.

This letter is very clearly written by Christine Breese herself, just like the other letters she decided to blame on someone else. The letter written threatenng legal action is completely her style, compare it to anything else she has written and one sees the tangled web she weaves. This one is written in the same style, it so completely reveals her basic communication patterns as to further embarrass her and show just how self-absorbed she is as she attempts to pass herself off as an eager employee or student that has 'checked things out.
The idea that some "staff member" wrote it is bizarre and so clearly not the case one wonders how she can make any claim to being honest, kind of like some of the curriculum material she uses.

o im lovin this. Light vs dark but which is which. a bard in the making me thinks. cease the day right enough eh!

You are scary! why would someone have to announce his own problems to the entire world????

Live and let live. Third dimension stuff can be hard if you make it hard. It is choice. Someone here has chosen to make it hard. Kindness, compassion, peace - these are the ways of the universe. Suffering, being mean, hurting others...this is the stuff of most humans on earth. Earth stuff is not really important. Try living based on your heart, not your head...that means living with love, compassion and kindness for all rather than with hatred and making people look bad in order to prove a point...I have compassion for you who makes videos of someone with the goal of making that person look bad. Funny thing is...it is all illusion - no one looks bad! The spirit in me sees the spirit in you - Namaste. By the way, Christine is not the only person who understands the positive dynamics of the universe - Buddha, Eckhart Tollle, Lao Tzu, Jesus (pre-church twisting), Native Americans...they all "got it".

Peace to you always - we are all connected. :O)

Congratulations of exposing the pscho false tranquility ego of dark dishonest people. The advaita ex druggies who pause dramatically while pretending to be enlightened with no personal responsibilities and a frightening psycho vibe-deep emanation of dishonesty- are setting up a grand fall. Women have discovered that long hair and a flower makes men pay ridiculous prices to 'sit' with them, imagining that they have spiritually progressed in the huge requirements of inner character and seasoned unselfishness required. First question, would the teacher give this for free, second, would they serve others with no recognition? She is deeply dark. Grand finale: She herself steals several word for word paragraphs from Eckart Tolle and Robert Adams which will be soon found out. Let the true good guys lead us in the real work and the load outs exposed. The kind wears no clothes! (wise fairy tale where the emperor intimidates all into pretending that symptoms are real ie acting calm in place of real peace is psycho. Reminder: evil takes place in very calm origins.) Expose this confused dark woman and make an honorable person out of her. Peace.

Congratulations of exposing the pscho false tranquility ego of dark dishonest people. The advaita ex druggies who pause dramatically while pretending to be enlightened with no personal responsibilities and a frightening psycho vibe-deep emanation of dishonesty- are setting up a grand fall. Women have discovered that long hair and a flower makes men pay ridiculous prices to 'sit' with them, imagining that they have spiritually progressed in the huge requirements of inner character and seasoned unselfishness required. First question, would the teacher give this for free, second, would they serve others with no recognition? She is deeply dark. Grand finale: She herself steals several word for word paragraphs from Eckart Tolle and Robert Adams which will be soon found out. Let the true good guys lead us in the real work and the load outs exposed. The kind wears no clothes! (wise fairy tale where the emperor intimidates all into pretending that symptoms are real ie acting calm in place of real peace is psycho. Reminder: evil takes place in very calm origins.) Expose this confused dark woman and make an honorable person out of her. Peace.

Good morning from Romania, Bucharest!

I only have a few things to say and then I'm off because it's 4 AM here, namely:

a) It's far easier to criticize rather than understand the cause of one's (obvious) instability (such as mine);

b) It's far easier to remain a primitive in your own right rather than listening to TRUE Enlightened Masters, and I don't mean listening to Ms. Breese over here, unfortunately, although she's trying to become one, to get herself out of the dark, as I do;

c) It's far easier to remain an absolute ignorant in matters of spiritual Metaphysics and keep on listening Rock and Hip-Hop.

Why did I came so strong against such kind of 'parody artists'? Because I know how you TRULY are... :-) And because I dedicated myself to the Dharmic concept a long time ago.

P.S. 1: Go on, waste your lives doing whatever you will, but STOP harassing like a pack of hungry hyenas people who truly want to and need (our) help! Continue to be SMALL, as you were until a minute ago! :-)

P.S. 2: No, I'm NOT a member of the U.M.S., so sorry, you can't charge me of that. :-)

P.S. 3: Even with obvious stress-based issues, Ms. Breese IS a person who can teach us much from her own suffering; it only takes to be lucid and... HUMAN.

Peace!

I watched christine's video and thought it was quite accurate. sounds right out of advaita,dzogchen, or tolle